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  • Sat, Apr 8 2017 8:58 PM

    Need help identifying what I have

    Not sure what i have got myself into but i recently purchased what I thought was a Evo Harley. Turns out it is a custom build using a Evo.  Bike needed a starter when I purchased it and after much research thought i found the proper one.  I purchased a starter for a 1988 softail standard. Once i got the starter and compared to my old starter I knew it wouldnt work.  The starters look very similar(hitachi style starter) but the original one is longer and has larger bolts.  Any advice on what i might have? It has a single bracket starter solenoid, unkown brand inner primary, engine that I belive is a 1998, sputhe trans case, jims trans trapdoor, unkown belt drive primary.  Not sure if any of that helps, but thats what i have gathered so far.  If pictures would help i could try and post those.  Thanks in advance for any help.

  • Sun, Apr 9 2017 5:51 AM In reply to

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    Re: Need help identifying what I have

    You didn't say if it was a Harley engine. There's a lot of clones out there. The engine number will tell you what you have. Google that number.

    FX

    Don't force it, get a bigger hammer.

  • Sun, Apr 9 2017 6:20 AM In reply to

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    Re: Need help identifying what I have

    derrin - first, welcome to the forums - what part of the country are you from?

    are there any part #s on the starter or or inner primary?  What size / length are the longer bolts?  What is the length of the existing starter?

    These might help someone with the parts books (i.e. J&P staff) identify what you have.

    hope this helps

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  • Sun, Apr 9 2017 7:43 AM In reply to

    Re: Need help identifying what I have

    I know the jugs are HD, not sure about the case though. I'm not familiar with the aftermarket world of harley, so far though any aftermarket part i have found has been clearly marked with a company's name. I can see a marking for a company on the inner primary that I think would help me, but it is illegible. 

  • Sun, Apr 9 2017 7:55 AM In reply to

    Re: Need help identifying what I have

    Im from Birmingham Alabama. This is my first HD project, had several other Jap project bikes. For Harleys  to be so simple they can be very complicated, then again I did buy something that's been pieced together..... Haven't been able to find any part #'s on the inner primary or the starter. Starter looks like a generic chrome starter. I was trying to remove the inner primary last night to get a better look at what's going on, but don't have a socket large enough for the front hub and the clutch assembly won't budge from it's shaft without a puller. I'll check the starter length and bolt size in a bit.

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    Re: Need help identifying what I have

     You have to find a number on the cases to identify the engine. Starter measurements would help, or you could match up the starter with pictures, and discription in the catalog...

    FX

    Don't force it, get a bigger hammer.

  • Sun, Apr 9 2017 9:20 AM In reply to

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    Re: Need help identifying what I have

    derrin - i just went out and checked my '96 road king - the engine serial # is on the left side of the engine, just below where the two jugs bolt on.

    There also should be a frame serial # stamped into the neck (if there isn't an OE tag on the neck) - that will help tell whose frame you have.

    and i wouldn't try to disassemble the clutch assembly without the proper spring compressor.

    The first tool out of the box should be the "book"  Geeked

  • Sun, Apr 9 2017 12:39 PM In reply to

    Re: Need help identifying what I have

    Got the engine serial# *bklw9144922*

    The starter bolts thread size are 1/4-20 and the main body is just over 6" long and tip to tip is about 8"

    I wasnt going to take the clutch apart just remove the assembly, from what I have found online it looks like you can remove the assembly without taking the clutch assembly apart.  Also it is a dry clutch setup.

    There is no frame serial number, I belive it is a custom frame someone bought and then titled. It has a vin tag rivited to the frame from the Alabama DMV and starts with ALxxxxx instead of 1HDxxxxx.

    Im going to try and upload a photo of the engine number and inner primary marking I cant identify.

  • Sun, Apr 9 2017 12:44 PM In reply to

    Re: Need help identifying what I have

    I was hoping it would downsize that photo.... Thats not going to tell you anything. Not sure how to delete a post if a moderator wants to get rid of that.

  • Sun, Apr 9 2017 2:31 PM In reply to

    Re: Need help identifying what I have

    I think i may have found the correct starter.  Based off what I can find from the thread size 1/4-20 it is most liekly a prestolite and not hitachi style.  Found this starter that looks exactly like the one i pulled off: http://www.jpcycles.com/product/3800306

    I would rather not have chrome starter and this one burned up after only 11k miles. Considering I dont know the compression on this motor I might just go with the All Balls high torque starter to be on the safe side. 

    Did Harleys come with a dry clutch factory at any point?

  • Mon, Apr 10 2017 5:48 AM In reply to

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    Re: Need help identifying what I have

    Yes the big twins had dry clutches up till 79 or 80 I think. And yes, go with the all balls starter in your case. I'm going to see what I can find on that number, and I'll delete that photo for you...

    FX

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  • Mon, Apr 10 2017 7:13 AM In reply to

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    Re: Need help identifying what I have

    I could not find anything on that engine number Derrin, we'll have to wing it...

    FX

    Don't force it, get a bigger hammer.

  • Mon, Apr 10 2017 3:04 PM In reply to

    Re: Need help identifying what I have

    derrin410:

    Got the engine serial# *bklw9144922*

    BK = FXSTC
    L = 1340 Evolution
    W = 1998

     

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  • Mon, Apr 10 2017 8:51 PM In reply to

    Re: Need help identifying what I have

    I appreciate everyone's help on this. I'll let y'all know how the starter works out. Still some mystery to this arrangement of parts but know a lot more than I did a week ago. Strange I have a 98 engine with a starter that shows to fit pre 80's harleys. 

  • Tue, Apr 11 2017 6:36 AM In reply to

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    Re: Need help identifying what I have

    Sorry Derrin, I couldn't find anything on that number. Speedking has more resourses than I do...

    FX

    Don't force it, get a bigger hammer.

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